World Wide Property Sales
How Much Does a Renovation Cost, Anyway?
by Vena Jones-Cox
Q: I keep hearing other members of my real estate association talking about
fixing up a whole house from top to bottom for $10,000 to $20,000. When I get
bids for properties I’m thinking of buying, I find that I can’t get the same
work done for less than $30,000. What am I doing wrong?
A: I’m guessing that you have several problems here. The first is a problem of
perception. When you hear someone say that he fixed a house “from top to bottom”
for $10,000, you might assume that he replaced everything—roof, furnace, walls,
kitchen, bath, wiring, plumbing, etc. But this is probably not the case. The
goal of most investors who buy properties to renovate and resell is to buy
cheap, spend $10-$15,000 on renovations and holding costs, sell for retail
price, and pocket $25,000. Because major mechanical work (like rewiring,
replacing plumbing, or overhauling the heating system) and structural work (like
fixing foundations, leveling floors, or dealing with extensive termite damage)is
expensive and time consuming, many investors won’t even consider tackling a
property that needs these things. On the other hand, cosmetic work like kitchen
and bath updates, paint, siding, carpet, landscaping, and decorating are
relatively straightforward and inexpensive.
That’s why you need more information to determine how your colleagues are
getting better prices than you are. The first question you should ask is,
“Exactly what did you do to the property?”. If “fixed top to bottom” means
updating cosmetics, a $10,000-$20,000 price tag is completely reasonable. If it
means dealing with the mechanics and the structure, a $20,000 price tag is–well,
let’s just say it’s highly suspect. A second question you need to ask when
someone quotes a seemingly low price for rehab is, “Who actually did the work?”
If the investor did the labor himself, he’s quoting you a price for materials
only, and paid only 25% or so of the cost of having the same work done by
someone else. But on the other hand, he also spent an enormous amount of his own
time (and endured enormous headaches!) getting the property ready for
market–time that he’s probably not “paying” himself for when he figures out how
much the rehab cost.
Here’s another question for you to ask colleagues: “Who acted as the general
contractor?” The general contractor is the person who hires and supervises the
people who actually do the work. When you hire a general contractor, he gets an
override on the wages you pay the electrician, the drywaller, the carpet guy,
and so on. This makes the whole operation cost about 10%-20% more than if you
hire the workers yourself–and most investors do exactly that. Which brings us to
another thing you should know in understanding why your experienced investor
friends can get work less expensively than you can: most experienced renovators
have a list of contractors with whom they’ve been dealing for years. They have a
track record with the contractors, so the contractors know that1) the jobs they
perform for your colleagues will be relatively straightforward, with no
last-minute changes 2) payment will be on time and in full 3) there are more
jobs where this one came from. This level of trust–and the fact that the jobs
the contractor does for the investor are relatively hassle free–means that the
contractor is willing and able to charge a bare-bones price for his labor.
Finally, I wonder how you’re going about “getting bids” for your own fix-up. In
my experience, it’s a huge mistake to tell a contractor, “Here’s what I want.
Send me a bid”. You’d be surprised at how many contractors don’t have the first
clue how to bid a job, and won’t even show up for your appointment. Some will
make a sky-high bid because they really don’t need the job, or because they’re
not good at estimating the amount of time it takes them to complete a job, and
want be absolutely sure that they’re being paid appropriately. Still others will
make a very low bid, either because they’re not good at estimating the time it
takes them to complete a job, or because they’re desperate for work. And while
this might seem like the best-case scenario for you, it usually ends with a
contractor who feels cheated by what he’s being paid, and either wants to
renegotiate halfway through the job or simply disappears one day, never to be
heard from again.
The best, most efficient, and cheapest way of getting contractors to work for
you is to decide exactly what work you want done and how much you want to pay
for it. Don’t lowball; pick a price that compensates a skilled person fairly for
the amount of time it ought to take him or her to complete the job. Put this in
writing and show it to your potential contractor, and if he agrees, sign a
CONTRACT outlining the terms of the deal. That’s why they call them contractors,
you know.
So let’s summarize. Your fellow investors are paying less than you are because;
1) they’re doing renovations that are less complicated and expensive.
2) doing all or part of the labor themselves.
3) bypassing the General Contractor and hiring the individual laborers directly.
4) getting great prices from their contractors thanks to a history they have
together.
5) bypassing the bidding process by figuring out what they want to pay and
offering the job to the contractor at that price.
It seems to me that there are 4 steps to solving your problem. First, make sure
you’re thoroughly educated about inspection, repair costs, and the renovation
process. Second, take some of these fellow renovators out to lunch and pick
their brains about how they control their rehab costs. Third, get
referrals–exactly who do they use to do this work? And finally, start building
your own network of contracts who perform well, trust you, and can be depended
on to do the work you need at a price you can afford.
Bio:
Vena Jones-Cox’s real estate business focuses on finding great deals on 1-3
family homes, then lease/optioning them to homeowners or wholesaling them to
investors and renovators. All told, she buys and sells about 50 properties per
year.
Vena is a frequent guest lecturer at real estate investment groups throughout
the country, and particularly enjoys working with new investors. Vena frequently
authors articles on real estate investment and the regulatory environment for
various newsletters and publications, including The Real Deal, her own monthly
newsletter. She has been a guest speaker at the Cato Institute in Washington,
D.C., lecturing on the effects of lead-based paint regulation on small
investors. And in her spare time, Vena hosts a popular weekly call-in radio
program on public radio. Real Life Real Estate Investing can be heard throughout
the Midwest and throughout the world on the Internet (WNKU.org) Wednesdays from
5:00-6:00 PM EDT.
Vena Jones-Cox is a past president of the Real Estate Investor’s Association of
Cincinnati, the Ohio Real Estate Investor’s Association, and the National Real
Estate Investor’s Association. She intends to form the International and,
eventually, Pan-Galactic Real Estate Investors Associations so she can be
president of those, too. Vena Jones-Cox has been featured in publications such
as The Cincinnati Enquirer, Smart Money Magazine, Money Magazine and Reader’s
Digest in articles about successful real estate entrepreneurs.